just in terms of steve's question of voting on that, it strikes me that it doesn't mr. need to be a federal role in promulgating standards, these can be voluntary standards of the sector comes up with. public education network develop standards like this for local education funds which members, voluntary adoption process based on the independent sectors, standards for nonprofits and good governance and how they are managed. that does -- is a critique i hear in the for-profit world historically that i wonder if stand for another mechanism, and that is certainly in the charter world where you have an independent charter authority for example, that grants a charter school, for-profit schools, and it takes out from under -- in other words, the school board, the elected officials have the responsibility for governing the school district, doesn't have authority to pull a charter, perhaps. and as we go into some of these burgeoning field of online and others, perhaps there will be an analogous critique. i wonder if sanders or another mechanism could address that critique. talk